Comments on: Health Care Reform – A Sign Of Maturity http://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/ Patriotism Without Borders Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:39:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Global Patriothttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-598 Global Patriot Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:57:30 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-598 A very insightful statement : "What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need." How we accomplish this - privately or with government involvement - is secondary to the notion that as a society matures we figure out, as human beings, how to take care of each other. A very insightful statement : “What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need.”

How we accomplish this – privately or with government involvement – is secondary to the notion that as a society matures we figure out, as human beings, how to take care of each other.

]]> By: GlobalPatriothttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-2870 GlobalPatriot Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:57:00 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-2870 A very insightful statement : "What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need." How we accomplish this - privately or with government involvement - is secondary to the notion that as a society matures we figure out, as human beings, how to take care of each other. A very insightful statement : “What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need.”

How we accomplish this – privately or with government involvement – is secondary to the notion that as a society matures we figure out, as human beings, how to take care of each other.

]]> By: cstantehttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-597 cstante Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:29:38 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-597 I don't know if health care is a right or not. To me it doesn't matter. What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need. I am a psychiatrist working on an inpatient psychiatric unit in a fairly small community hospital. I see people who are on the whole unable to care for themselves. Most insurance companies want an update on a patient even after only a day or two in the hospital. This is absurd. No one with a serious psychiatric illness gets better in two days. Frequently I have to do what is called a peer review. This means that I have to talk to a doctor at an insurance company to justify why I think the patient needs to stay in the hospital. Mostly what that doctor is looking for is whether or not the patient is suicidal. A patient has to say he or she is suicidal and thinking about actually killing himself or herself to be allowed to stay in the hospital. If the person is only thinking suicidal thoughts, then it is out the door. Frequently the patient is not ready for discharge. Many of my co-workers and I wish for a time when we could keep the patient in the hospital long enough to get better, truly better. As it is, I feel a pressure to get people better and have at times increased medication too fast. The point of all this is, as I see it, that money is not everything and that cherishing life can encompass everything including our relationship with money. I don’t know if health care is a right or not. To me it doesn’t matter. What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need. I am a psychiatrist working on an inpatient psychiatric unit in a fairly small community hospital.

I see people who are on the whole unable to care for themselves. Most insurance companies want an update on a patient even after only a day or two in the hospital. This is absurd. No one with a serious psychiatric illness gets better in two days. Frequently I have to do what is called a peer review. This means that I have to talk to a doctor at an insurance company to justify why I think the patient needs to stay in the hospital.

Mostly what that doctor is looking for is whether or not the patient is suicidal. A patient has to say he or she is suicidal and thinking about actually killing himself or herself to be allowed to stay in the hospital. If the person is only thinking suicidal thoughts, then it is out the door. Frequently the patient is not ready for discharge. Many of my co-workers and I wish for a time when we could keep the patient in the hospital long enough to get better, truly better. As it is, I feel a pressure to get people better and have at times increased medication too fast.

The point of all this is, as I see it, that money is not everything and that cherishing life can encompass everything including our relationship with money.

]]> By: cstantehttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-2869 cstante Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:29:00 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-2869 I don't know if health care is a right or not. To me it doesn't matter. What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need. I am a psychiatrist working on an inpatient psychiatric unit in a fairly small community hospital. I see people who are on the whole unable to care for themselves. Most insurance companies want an update on a patient even after only a day or two in the hospital. This is absurd. No one with a serious psychiatric illness gets better in two days. Frequently I have to do what is called a peer review. This means that I have to talk to a doctor at an insurance company to justify why I think the patient needs to stay in the hospital. Mostly what that doctor is looking for is whether or not the patient is suicidal. A patient has to say he or she is suicidal and thinking about actually killing himself or herself to be allowed to stay in the hospital. If the person is only thinking suicidal thoughts, then it is out the door. Frequently the patient is not ready for discharge. Many of my co-workers and I wish for a time when we could keep the patient in the hospital long enough to get better, truly better. As it is, I feel a pressure to get people better and have at times increased medication too fast. The point of all this is, as I see it, that money is not everything and that cherishing life can encompass everything including our relationship with money. I don’t know if health care is a right or not. To me it doesn’t matter. What matters is how we as human beings with hearts and souls chose to take care of our brother and sisters who are in genuine need. I am a psychiatrist working on an inpatient psychiatric unit in a fairly small community hospital.

I see people who are on the whole unable to care for themselves. Most insurance companies want an update on a patient even after only a day or two in the hospital. This is absurd. No one with a serious psychiatric illness gets better in two days. Frequently I have to do what is called a peer review. This means that I have to talk to a doctor at an insurance company to justify why I think the patient needs to stay in the hospital.

Mostly what that doctor is looking for is whether or not the patient is suicidal. A patient has to say he or she is suicidal and thinking about actually killing himself or herself to be allowed to stay in the hospital. If the person is only thinking suicidal thoughts, then it is out the door. Frequently the patient is not ready for discharge. Many of my co-workers and I wish for a time when we could keep the patient in the hospital long enough to get better, truly better. As it is, I feel a pressure to get people better and have at times increased medication too fast.

The point of all this is, as I see it, that money is not everything and that cherishing life can encompass everything including our relationship with money.

]]> By: Global Patriothttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-525 Global Patriot Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:39:09 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-525 The "maturity" view stated in the post supports your statement: "everyone receives the health care they need when they need it" - what is interesting is that even those who support this notion differ on how to actually make it happen - private industry, government, or a combination of both. The “maturity” view stated in the post supports your statement: “everyone receives the health care they need when they need it” – what is interesting is that even those who support this notion differ on how to actually make it happen – private industry, government, or a combination of both.

]]> By: GlobalPatriothttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-2868 GlobalPatriot Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:39:00 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-2868 The "maturity" view stated in the post supports your statement: "everyone receives the health care they need when they need it" - what is interesting is that even those who support this notion differ on how to actually make it happen - private industry, government, or a combination of both. The “maturity” view stated in the post supports your statement: “everyone receives the health care they need when they need it” – what is interesting is that even those who support this notion differ on how to actually make it happen – private industry, government, or a combination of both.

]]> By: Skovihttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-524 Skovi Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:05:20 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-524 To me is not only about insuring the uninsured, but making sure that everyone receives the health care they need when they need it. The problem lies in the "profitable" side of this matter, when insurance companies make money by denying health services for whatever reason. This is the scary part that unfortunately and unethically has taken the lives of many and has left families bankrupt. That is mainly what's wrong about the health system. To me is not only about insuring the uninsured, but making sure that everyone receives the health care they need when they need it. The problem lies in the “profitable” side of this matter, when insurance companies make money by denying health services for whatever reason. This is the scary part that unfortunately and unethically has taken the lives of many and has left families bankrupt. That is mainly what’s wrong about the health system.

]]> By: Skovihttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-2867 Skovi Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:05:00 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-2867 To me is not only about insuring the uninsured, but making sure that everyone receives the health care they need when they need it. The problem lies in the "profitable" side of this matter, when insurance companies make money by denying health services for whatever reason. This is the scary part that unfortunately and unethically has taken the lives of many and has left families bankrupt. That is mainly what's wrong about the health system. To me is not only about insuring the uninsured, but making sure that everyone receives the health care they need when they need it. The problem lies in the “profitable” side of this matter, when insurance companies make money by denying health services for whatever reason. This is the scary part that unfortunately and unethically has taken the lives of many and has left families bankrupt. That is mainly what’s wrong about the health system.

]]> By: Global Patriothttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Global Patriot Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:17:20 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-523 You make a number of good points Jen, and anyone whose life has been saved by medical treatment will say much the same thing. But I have spoken with many who say that our health is a matter for us to take care of as individuals, and not a "right" that our government should take care of. Definitely a contentious debate on the topic. You make a number of good points Jen, and anyone whose life has been saved by medical treatment will say much the same thing. But I have spoken with many who say that our health is a matter for us to take care of as individuals, and not a “right” that our government should take care of. Definitely a contentious debate on the topic.

]]> By: GlobalPatriothttp://globalpatriot.com/2009/08/10/health-care-reform-a-sign-of-maturity/comment-page-1/#comment-2866 GlobalPatriot Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:17:00 +0000 http://globalpatriot.com/?p=346#comment-2866 You make a number of good points Jen, and anyone whose life has been saved by medical treatment will say much the same thing. But I have spoken with many who say that our health is a matter for us to take care of as individuals, and not a "right" that our government should take care of. Definitely a contentious debate on the topic. You make a number of good points Jen, and anyone whose life has been saved by medical treatment will say much the same thing. But I have spoken with many who say that our health is a matter for us to take care of as individuals, and not a “right” that our government should take care of. Definitely a contentious debate on the topic.

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